Sep 15, 2013; Toronto, Ontario, CAN; Toronto Blue Jays shortstop Ryan Goins (17) hits a single in the second inning in a game against the Baltimore Orioles at the Rogers Centre. Mandatory Credit: Mark Konezny-USA TODAY Sports

Blue Jays Talking to Other Clubs About 2nd Base Trades, Pitcher Deals Dead

Well, while the Toronto Blue Jays may be done looking for additional pitchers, the team still appears to be looking for ways to improve the team in other ways. In a meeting with reporters on Thursday, Blue Jays general manager Alex Anthopoulos was pretty frank about a couple things pertaining to this year’s team.

Via Gregor Chisholm and Shi Davidi on Twitter.

Well, that certainly leaves a bit to the imagination, but also clears some things up.

Firstly, the fact that Toronto wasn’t close on any free agent starters and are unlikely to pursue any other options this winter supports what we heard yesterday from Jayson Stark. The tweets above nail that down, showing Toronto intends to figure out what they can get out of the group of internal options they are bringing to camp. It’s not what the fans want to hear, as they wanted an upgrade found this winter, but at least it brings closure to that.

Of other interest was his comments about second base. As long as the winter has been, we’ve primarily heard that the Blue Jays were content with an open competition between Ryan Goins and Maicer Izturis for the second base job. However, the fact that Alex was still looking at possible trades with clubs as late as last week seems to indicate that the team is not quite as comfortable as we initially thought. That would seem to hold true with the advanced metrics we’re seeing in the current group.

Adding a long-term piece at second base would involve a trade partner that has some talent to give up and finding a match for something the Blue Jays can give up. Perhaps the previously mentioned deal with the Pirates involving Adam Lind and looking at a Jordy Mercer could be rekindled. Perhaps there is a way to utilize some of that bullpen depth we hear so much about, adding the piece we need and avoiding the dreaded 8-man bullpen from last year.

Then again, maybe this is just Alex Anthopoulos deflating one sail while pumping wind into another. Maybe there is nothing here to get excited about and we should simply anticipate going into Opening Day with the army of what we currently have on the roster. Perhaps that excitement for last season’s team will be rekindled and the Blue Jays will surprise us all. At this stage, it is probably best to come at it from this perspective, and let any ninja moves be a pleasant surprise.

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  • Jeremy Russell

    “Our target has been more a younger guy that has upside that has a chance to be a long-term piece.”

    Nick Franklin?

    • Andrew van Laar

      I was just going to say that :)

    • Kyle Franzoni

      Sounds good to me. I think Franklin is being dogged in a lot of areas, but he has upside.

    • Justin Jay

      Franklin has to be the way to go, unless Miller struggles at SS. Who could the Mariners use though?

      • Gary Kimbrel

        They could use shut-down pen arms and SP depth, but they’d probably also be interested in long men for spot starts. Same with the Angels.

  • Gary Kimbrel

    I guess that means it’s time for unlikely trade speculation again HURRAAAAAYYYYYY.

    I’m still going with my previous idea of a 3 team trade between Toronto, Pittsburgh and another team, where PIT receives Lind, Tor receives a piece from team X, and team X receives prospects from TOR and one prospect from PIT that PIT values the same or less than Lind. Obviously this depends a lot on how team needs match up, but what makes me think it’s plausible is Pittsburgh’s very deep farm. I don’t think they’d mind giving up a lower-end young guy with upside for Lind. Initially I was thinking of Philly trading Cliff Lee, but it also works with teams with an infield surplus that are looking for a youth-injection.

    Frankly, I was hoping the Jays would sign an innings-eating SP, creating even more depth so some of that depth could be traded for a 2nd baseman. They could still sign Santana, who would at least create stability which we need, so that a package of pitchers could be traded to someone who needs depth. Maybe Happ, Santos (because he’s volatile and gets expensive after this year, but has value right now) and Redmond to LAA for Kendrick and a low-end prospect, or Redmond and Santos to SEA for Ackley and a couple prospects. Either way, the roster crunch for SP depth is coming. I don’t want to lose guys on waivers when there’s a demand for them and we still have needs. I mean, come on.

    • Justin Jay

      I honestly think the only way a Lind deal gets done with Pitt is if a 3rd team is involved, because I think Todd Walker was the player involved in that deal. Neither team has a bonafide 2B ready to fill that hole created by Walker leaving.
      The Angels only have low end prospects. Their farm system is in shambles. I think that would be an overpay for Kendrick, but I could see why some people value him so highly. I don’t

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