The complicated legacy of John Schneider

Is John Schneider’s terrible decision making killing the Toronto Blue Jays and their hopes of postseason success?

Or is he keeping a deeply flawed team from going off the rails?

Whichever way you see it, one thing is for sure – even Schneider’s staunchest defenders cannot deny that he has had some epic meltdowns this season.

Don’t believe me? Below, I’ll break down his most dramatic, spectacular, viral catastrophes so far.

If you’re looking for ammunition to hasten the skipper’s demise, you’ve come to the right place. And if you back John Schneider, well, what you’ll find below will at least be good for a laugh.

To get there though, we must first start at the beginning …

John Schneider – Prodigy

The start of John Schneider’s managerial story is just about as stereotypically folksy as you’d expect from the game of baseball.

A career minor leaguer who rose as high as Triple-A, one day in 2008, a then-27-year-old Schneider, with multiple injuries and concussions under his belt, simply walked off the diamond in the middle of a game, hung up his cleats on a chain link fence which surrounded the field, and returned to the game as the first base coach.

From that moment, Schneider’s rise was nothing short of meteoric.

By the start of the next season, he had been named the manager of the Blue Jays Rookie-level team in the Gulf Coast League, and two years after that, became the youngest ever manager of the Single-A Vancouver Canadians.

In Vancouver, Schneider would lead his team to a championship, then move up to High-A and win the first ever championship in the history of the Dunedin Blue Jays, before repeating the feat again with the Double-A New Hampshire Fisher Cats, where he was named Manager of the Year.

By the time he reached Toronto as a bench coach in 2019, Schneider was considered something of a prodigy, a blue-chip prospect, so to speak, in the managing game. Surely, when Schneider took over as the manager of the Jays in August of 2022, the front office believed they’d found the guy to lead the team for the next decade.

And in many ways, the decision has worked out pretty much how they’d hoped so far.

Since Schneider took over as manager, the Jays have gone 133-97, good for a 94-win pace over a full 162 game season. For context, only four times in 45 years of Blue Jays history has the team won as many as 94 games, and not since the back-to-back World Series year in 1993.

Looking at this year specifically, the Jays currently sit on pace for 90 wins, despite the near wholesale underperformance of their batting lineup. Perhaps this is not quite where the team expected to be at the start of the season, but again, for context, the Blue Jays have only won as many as 90 games eight times.

It’s not just the record though. Look at the pitching staff, which sits as perhaps the best in franchise history – at this moment, they lead the league in ERA, and certainly a part of that can be attributed to the way the manager handles his pitchers.

The point is, it’s hard to say that Schneider’s tenure has not gone pretty well to this point. It’s just that, on the flip side, it might not seem that way because, well … the meltdowns have been so dramatic.

Melting down

It all started last year in the second game of the Wild Card round against the Mariners, when Schneider panicked and pulled starter Kevin Gausman with an 8-1 lead, then watched the team collapse in an eventual 10-9 loss which eliminated the Jays from the playoffs.

We knew that he was inexperienced, but in his first moment under the bright lights, it could not have gone much worse.

Unfortunately for the Jays, the tendency to melt down periodically has become something of a calling card this year. Here are the most spectacular and viral catastrophes to date:

May 20: “I f***ed up”

We may as well start with the most embarrassing moment of all, not necessarily a bad decision which cost the Jays the game, but a humiliating occurrence which would be among the career lowlights for any manager.

During the sixth inning of a game against the Orioles, Schneider confidently popped out of the dugout and strode to the mound to have a word with his starter Alek Manoah, who, while not cruising, was pitching one of his better games of the season, sitting on 85 pitches.

The only problem was that Schneider forgot that pitching coach Pete Walker had already been to the mound that inning, so Schneider’s visit meant he would have to take Manoah out.

“I f***ed up,” Schneider would say after the game.

Indeed.

August 29: Run Kirk Run

The other moment which probably first comes to mind when thinking about Schneider’s 2023 blunders, because, well, pretty much anything involving Alejandro Kirk running tends to stick out in the minds of fans …

Trailing 5-3 with one out in the eighth inning, the not-exactly-fleet-footed Kirk found himself on third base with pinch hitter Daulton Varsho at the plate. Surely this would be a moment to replace Kirk with a pinch runner.

Not for John Schneider.

Moments later, Varsho drove a medium depth fly ball to center, and Kirk, tagging up, was gunned out at the plate. Double play, inning over.

The decision became particularly glaring when the Jays loaded the bases with no outs in the ninth, but were only able to muster one run, losing 5-4.

September 22: Romano’s Fingernail

The freshest example of a Schneider meltdown in our memory …

With the Jays nursing a 6-5 lead entering the bottom of the ninth after an astonishing comeback from 5-0 down in Tampa Bay, Schneider turned to Jordan Romano, who had not blown a save since May 20, to close it out.

From the first couple of pitches, it was clear that something was wrong. Romano kept glancing down at his finger, fiddling with it. We would later learn that this was the result of a cracked fingernail acquired the day before.

Worse still, whether because of his finger or not, Romano simply didn’t have it. Three consecutive hits and the lead was lost.

Eventually, with two outs and runners on first and third, Josh Lowe stepped to the plate, a classic Rays hitter who is a star in specific situations – an .841 OPS against right-handed pitchers – and a black hole in others -- a .631 OPS against lefties.

With the light-hitting Manuel Margot on deck, it seemed that there were two clear options – intentionally walk Lowe and pitch to Margot, or pull an obviously-injured Romano in favor of the lefty Tim Mayza to face Lowe.

Schneider did neither, and Lowe promptly singled home the winning run.

July 21: Seattle … again

Some would say a true meltdown is when multiple moves blow up in your face in succession.

Facing the Mariners in what has proven to be a critical game for the playoff race, Schneider began by pulling a dominant Yusei Kikuchi, who was carving up his former team to the tune of 5.1 scoreless innings, after only 78 pitches.

Then, with the Jays clinging to a narrow 2-1 lead, Schneider declined to pinch run for Brandon Belt after he led off the eighth inning with a walk, despite having Kevin Kiermaier on the bench. Moments later, he was unable to score from second on a ringing Whit Merrifield single.

Don’t worry, it got worse. With the bases loaded and one out after Merrifield’s single, Schneider called Daulton Varsho back and sent up pinch hitter Alejandro Kirk … who promptly hit into a double play.

Having turned to the bullpen early, and already burning through Erik Swanson, Schneider was forced to watch Yimi Garcia blow the lead in the eighth, before the Mariners walked it off in the ninth.

May 1: José, Ok?

Speaking of pulling Kikuchi early only to be left with ineffective bullpen options, Schneider’s feel for when to pull a starter, and when not to, is something which has constantly been in question this season.

The most egregious example probably took place on May 1 at Fenway Park.

There, José Berrios had been doing José Berrios things, struggling with his command, lacking his best stuff, but biting down hard on the mouthpiece and gritting his way through five innings, allowing two runs despite 8 hits and a walk.

In the bottom of the fifth, Berrios had allowed hard contact to three straight batters, escaping the inning on a lineout and a double play. Visibly tiring, he was sent back out for the bottom of the sixth with the Jays clinging to a 3-2 lead. Immediately, Jarren Duran went deep, tying the game at three, and seemingly signifying the end of Berrios’ gutsy night.

Wrong.

He struck out the next batter, but when he walked the batter after that, still Schneider left him in the game. Up stepped rookie Enmanuel Valdez, who took Berrios deep for his first career home run, giving the Red Sox a 5-3 in a game they would end up winning 6-5.

August 13-25: Benching The Babe

Speaking of Davis Schneider …

We all remember Schneider bursting on the scene, famously hitting a home run in his first career at-bat, on his way to an astonishing .367/.472/1.172 slash line over his first 35 plate appearances. The strange thing was, after those first 35 plate appearances, Schneider basically fell off the map, starting only one game in the next two weeks.

Sure, his exclusion from the lineup is probably at least partially down to the front office, but still, to deprive an at-that-time-struggling offense of its hottest bat was a glaring blunder.

And when he did finally get back into the lineup? Well, he went 3/3 with a walk, a home run, a double, and three RBI, leading the Jays to victory against Cleveland. The next game, he hit another home run and another double. In fact, in 16 games afterwards, Schneider hit .380 with a .516 OBP, five home runs, nine doubles, and 14 RBI, while the Jays went 10-6.

Note that when Schneider was effectively benched between August 13-25, the team went 4-5. And in the only game he started during that time, he hit the game winning home run.

Is John Schneider the right man for the job?

Here we reach an impasse.

On one hand, if the Jays hold on over the season’s final week and earn a spot in the postseason, it’s difficult to say that the manager of a franchise who has been to the playoffs nine times in 45 years should be fired after leading the team to the playoffs.

On the other hand, a tendency to melt down is not exactly a card you want to have in your back pocket.

Certainly, it can be argued that John Schneider is young and inexperienced, and that with more age and wisdom, these meltdowns will become a mere footnote in his story. But can you really afford to have someone learning on the job for a purportedly contending team?

We don’t even know how the team will respond when it gets into a do-or-die pressure situation in the playoffs, how the memory of last year’s collapse will impact them. Sometimes, a meltdown like that is something which a core group never gets over …

So what do you think? Is John Schneider killing the Blue Jays chances, or has he been the one with his fingers in the leaking dam? Moreover, which meltdown was the worst, and are there any I'm missing? Let me know on the platform formerly known as Twitter – @WriteFieldDeep.