Comments on: Kelly Johnson: The Problem No One is Talking About

By: Offthecuff1

Offthecuff1 — Sun, 13 May 2012 03:08:59 +0000

I should of sounded out the words and been more clear for you but one thing is for certain you’re out in left field and to tell me to spend 5min to check facts yet you have no idea how the new cba has effected arb and compensation. lol Seriously?

I shouldnt have said Hech is destroying Vegas without being clear that I had meant for him and it being Vegas. ie grain of salt. He is always going to be poor with the bat but he is sporting an 800ops, 310ba, 360 obp.atm.

I was however wrong on Escobars deal I thought the contract was 2 and 3 but that’s besides the point and so is that they are options. At 5mil per they are pretty much guaranteed and for a top 5-10 SS / 2b its a steal.

As far as KJ he is not excepting arb, he wants a long term deal, obviously. While he didn’t get it last season there is a better chance because of the lack of 2b next off season he gets it, also if he continues his production a near certainty. The Jays will not receive compensation. The Jays are not going to part with Hech or Escobar, not with this ownership group. Thats just the sad reality of it.

By: Rockshu

Rockshu — Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:32:47 +0000

@Offthecuff1
Hechavarria currently has a .757 OPS in Las Vegas, which is definitely not what I’d call destroying. At best, his bat will be good enough to hit 9th in a lineup — at best. The downside is far worse than that. If the Blue Jays are in contention at the end of the season, there is no way the front office will let Johnson walk with the intention of handing a position to Hechavarria. Won’t happen. Also, Escobar got 2 years at 5M per, with 2 club options at 5M each. That’s way different than a 5 year deal. Please take 5 minutes and check your facts before criticizing someone else’s work. There’s nothing wrong with offering a different opinion, but doing so with an “I’m right, you’re wrong” tone won’t get you anywhere, and won’t get your opinion too many supporters.

By: Offthecuff1

Offthecuff1 — Mon, 30 Apr 2012 02:26:36 +0000

Sorry kids, but KJ isn’t coming back. Hech will be called up at some point, he’s the SS of the future. He’s destroying Vegas right now (grain of salt) but whats GG defense worth.. Just ask the Rays. Esco’s got 5 years at 5mil per on his deal and while he’s not an all-star he’s borderline and with a contract like that he wont be moved, other then to 2b. That this article or commenters didnt pick up on that is discouraging.

By: Rockshu

Rockshu — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:25:05 +0000

@talesen

If Johnson continues producing, without a doubt, the Blue Jays will be offering him arbitration. He’s most definitely going to decline, however. I’m not sure exactly how the new draft pick compensation works, but there’s no guarantee we’d receive a pick. I think a player has to have performed at truly elite levels, but again, I’m not as familiar with the new system as I was with the old.

By: Rockshu

Rockshu — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:24:38 +0000

If Johnson continues producing, without a doubt, the Blue Jays will be offering Johnson arbitration. He’s most definitely going to decline, however. I’m not sure exactly how the new draft pick compensation works, but there’s no guarantee we’d receive a pick. I think a player has to have performed at truly elite levels, but again, I’m not as familiar with the new system as I was with the old.

By: talesen

talesen — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:44:36 +0000

I believe another option would be to offer a 1 year compensation-qualifying offer at the end of this year. It’d be a hefty raise but it’s not long term. Especially if he has a good year. He could turn that down and try to secure something longer somewhere else but then we get draft pick compensation.