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		<title>By: Week In Review: December 25-31 - Jays Journal - A Toronto Blue Jays Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More</title>
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		<description>[...] Evan Longoria vs. Brett Lawrie: The Blue Jays Should Exceed Their Five-Year Contract Limit An in-depth argument that the Blue Jays should sign Brett Lawrie to a contract extension right now, with a comparison to Rays third baseman Evan Longoria. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Evan Longoria vs. Brett Lawrie: The Blue Jays Should Exceed Their Five-Year Contract Limit An in-depth argument that the Blue Jays should sign Brett Lawrie to a contract extension right now, with a comparison to Rays third baseman Evan Longoria. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mat Germain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mat Germain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I can&#039;t really rate &quot;smoothness&quot; alone, as I see effectiveness as being just as important. The fact that Lawrie and his cat-like reflexes were able to achieve a very high dWAR in the short span of time he played tells me he was extremely effective at 3B. So much so that he outdid the average MLB 3B by a fair margin. A bigger margin than Longoria would have over the same span of time. Therefore, I feel compelled to believe that no matter how good it looked, Lawrie was at least as effective as Longoria at 3B, even if a lot of his throws and actions were not exactly smooth.

I&#039;d also throw this into the pile of information: Lawrie still has room to grow as a defender. So, while Longoria may be &quot;better&quot; than him right now, there&#039;s a fair chance that Lawrie will be just as good, if not better, at 3B in the future. Judging by how well he made the transition from 2B to 3B, no easy feat, he should be much better over time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I can&#8217;t really rate &#8220;smoothness&#8221; alone, as I see effectiveness as being just as important. The fact that Lawrie and his cat-like reflexes were able to achieve a very high dWAR in the short span of time he played tells me he was extremely effective at 3B. So much so that he outdid the average MLB 3B by a fair margin. A bigger margin than Longoria would have over the same span of time. Therefore, I feel compelled to believe that no matter how good it looked, Lawrie was at least as effective as Longoria at 3B, even if a lot of his throws and actions were not exactly smooth.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also throw this into the pile of information: Lawrie still has room to grow as a defender. So, while Longoria may be &#8220;better&#8221; than him right now, there&#8217;s a fair chance that Lawrie will be just as good, if not better, at 3B in the future. Judging by how well he made the transition from 2B to 3B, no easy feat, he should be much better over time.</p>
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		<title>By: WakeandRake</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 04:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mat,  Just as jays4life said I loved the article. However, I don&#039;t think it is fair to compare Lawrie&#039;s defense to that of Longo&#039;s. Lawrie is below average when it comes to defensive actions and his arm strength is OK at best. The reason he was moved from the middle infield to third was exactly because of this. Longo is probably the smoothest third baseman in the game with the glove while with Lawrie it is a struggle. Check out this vid of him at spring training http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwiU-AfrJ24&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mat,  Just as jays4life said I loved the article. However, I don&#8217;t think it is fair to compare Lawrie&#8217;s defense to that of Longo&#8217;s. Lawrie is below average when it comes to defensive actions and his arm strength is OK at best. The reason he was moved from the middle infield to third was exactly because of this. Longo is probably the smoothest third baseman in the game with the glove while with Lawrie it is a struggle. Check out this vid of him at spring training <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwiU-AfrJ24&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwiU-AfrJ24&#038;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: WakeandRake</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mat,  Just as jays4life said I loved the article. However, I don&#039;t think it is fair to compare Lawrie&#039;s defense to that of Longo&#039;s. Lawrie is below average when it comes to defensive actions and his arm strength is OK at best. The reason he was moved from the middle infield to third was exactly because of this. Longo is probably the smoothest third baseman in the game with the glove while with Lawrie it is a struggle. Check out this vid of him at spring training http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwiU-AfrJ24&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mat,  Just as jays4life said I loved the article. However, I don&#8217;t think it is fair to compare Lawrie&#8217;s defense to that of Longo&#8217;s. Lawrie is below average when it comes to defensive actions and his arm strength is OK at best. The reason he was moved from the middle infield to third was exactly because of this. Longo is probably the smoothest third baseman in the game with the glove while with Lawrie it is a struggle. Check out this vid of him at spring training <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwiU-AfrJ24&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwiU-AfrJ24&#038;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: Top of the 49th: Sizing up Garza&#039;s value &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top of the 49th: Sizing up Garza&#039;s value &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 03:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Evan Longoria v. Brett Lawrie: The Blue Jays Should Exceed Their 5-Year &#8230; Finally, and most importantly, Lawrie looked great when he made it to the majors, energizing the entire team in a way that a Toronto Blue Jays player hasn&#039;t done in a very long time. If that&#039;s not a call for an extension, I don&#039;t know what is. &#8230; Read more on Jay&#8217;s Journal [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Evan Longoria v. Brett Lawrie: The Blue Jays Should Exceed Their 5-Year &#8230; Finally, and most importantly, Lawrie looked great when he made it to the majors, energizing the entire team in a way that a Toronto Blue Jays player hasn&#039;t done in a very long time. If that&#039;s not a call for an extension, I don&#039;t know what is. &#8230; Read more on Jay&#8217;s Journal [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JaysJournal</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jays4life I think that if Colby Rasmus had the track record Brett Lawrie now has, particularly with the defensive play and energy he brings, he&#039;d still be a Cardinal and that yes, they would have tried to sign him long-term. 

 

The Economics of the game don&#039;t allow teams like the Jays, Rays, and Rockies to sit on their money when the time is right. By investing in Lawrie now, the Jays would be saving themselves millions, would become a more attractive destination for free agents who also want assured competitiveness when they sign somewhere, and would also make it a more attractive place to re-sign for internal candidates.

 

If we wait until Lawrie has 2012 under his belt, he may not want to sign at all, and if he does, it will cost the Jays a lot more than it would today. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jays4life I think that if Colby Rasmus had the track record Brett Lawrie now has, particularly with the defensive play and energy he brings, he&#8217;d still be a Cardinal and that yes, they would have tried to sign him long-term. </p>
<p>The Economics of the game don&#8217;t allow teams like the Jays, Rays, and Rockies to sit on their money when the time is right. By investing in Lawrie now, the Jays would be saving themselves millions, would become a more attractive destination for free agents who also want assured competitiveness when they sign somewhere, and would also make it a more attractive place to re-sign for internal candidates.</p>
<p>If we wait until Lawrie has 2012 under his belt, he may not want to sign at all, and if he does, it will cost the Jays a lot more than it would today. </p>
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		<title>By: JaysJournal</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jays4life I think that if Colby Rasmus had the track record Brett Lawrie now has, particularly with the defensive play and energy he brings, he&#039;d still be a Cardinal and that yes, they would have tried to sign him long-term. 

 

The Economics of the game don&#039;t allow teams like the Jays, Rays, and Rockies to sit on their money when the time is right. By investing in Lawrie now, the Jays would be saving themselves millions, would become a more attractive destination for free agents who also want assured competitiveness when they sign somewhere, and would also make it a more attractive place to re-sign for internal candidates.

 

If we wait until Lawrie has 2012 under his belt, he may not want to sign at all, and if he does, it will cost the Jays a lot more than it would today. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jays4life I think that if Colby Rasmus had the track record Brett Lawrie now has, particularly with the defensive play and energy he brings, he&#8217;d still be a Cardinal and that yes, they would have tried to sign him long-term. </p>
<p>The Economics of the game don&#8217;t allow teams like the Jays, Rays, and Rockies to sit on their money when the time is right. By investing in Lawrie now, the Jays would be saving themselves millions, would become a more attractive destination for free agents who also want assured competitiveness when they sign somewhere, and would also make it a more attractive place to re-sign for internal candidates.</p>
<p>If we wait until Lawrie has 2012 under his belt, he may not want to sign at all, and if he does, it will cost the Jays a lot more than it would today. </p>
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		<title>By: jays4life</title>
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		<dc:creator>jays4life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mat,

         Love the article and you do raise some interesting points BUT do you really do a long term contract without Lawrie playing at least half the season to a full season? I mean I love the kid and i think he is going to be great but how many players have come up with such big hype play great for a few months and then poof something happens and they are never the same again. I mean for example, Eric Hinske ring a bell? I know not nearly the same potential but Hinske had a hell of a rookie season, got signed long term and then stunk up the joint. I know its not fair to compare Lawrie to Hinske as Lawrie def. has more tools all around but he was the last jay that came to mind being raw with potential locked up and then fizzling. Colby Rasmus, another huge potential guy...what is St. Louis locked him up due to potential to a 8-9 year deal....needless to say he wouldnt be a jay and i think they would regret that contract, at this moment anyways who knows later on.

All im saying is let&#039;s let Lawrie have a full year to see what he can do and how he adjusts now that pitchers have a small book on him. If he is doing great by August then lets think extension until then i dont see the jays willing to talk long term contract without proof he can be that franchise player and not a flash in the pan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mat,</p>
<p>         Love the article and you do raise some interesting points BUT do you really do a long term contract without Lawrie playing at least half the season to a full season? I mean I love the kid and i think he is going to be great but how many players have come up with such big hype play great for a few months and then poof something happens and they are never the same again. I mean for example, Eric Hinske ring a bell? I know not nearly the same potential but Hinske had a hell of a rookie season, got signed long term and then stunk up the joint. I know its not fair to compare Lawrie to Hinske as Lawrie def. has more tools all around but he was the last jay that came to mind being raw with potential locked up and then fizzling. Colby Rasmus, another huge potential guy&#8230;what is St. Louis locked him up due to potential to a 8-9 year deal&#8230;.needless to say he wouldnt be a jay and i think they would regret that contract, at this moment anyways who knows later on.</p>
<p>All im saying is let&#8217;s let Lawrie have a full year to see what he can do and how he adjusts now that pitchers have a small book on him. If he is doing great by August then lets think extension until then i dont see the jays willing to talk long term contract without proof he can be that franchise player and not a flash in the pan.</p>
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		<title>By: jays4life</title>
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		<dc:creator>jays4life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mat,

         Love the article and you do raise some interesting points BUT do you really do a long term contract without Lawrie playing at least half the season to a full season? I mean I love the kid and i think he is going to be great but how many players have come up with such big hype play great for a few months and then poof something happens and they are never the same again. I mean for example, Eric Hinske ring a bell? I know not nearly the same potential but Hinske had a hell of a rookie season, got signed long term and then stunk up the joint. I know its not fair to compare Lawrie to Hinske as Lawrie def. has more tools all around but he was the last jay that came to mind being raw with potential locked up and then fizzling. Colby Rasmus, another huge potential guy...what is St. Louis locked him up due to potential to a 8-9 year deal....needless to say he wouldnt be a jay and i think they would regret that contract, at this moment anyways who knows later on.

All im saying is let&#039;s let Lawrie have a full year to see what he can do and how he adjusts now that pitchers have a small book on him. If he is doing great by August then lets think extension until then i dont see the jays willing to talk long term contract without proof he can be that franchise player and not a flash in the pan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mat,</p>
<p>         Love the article and you do raise some interesting points BUT do you really do a long term contract without Lawrie playing at least half the season to a full season? I mean I love the kid and i think he is going to be great but how many players have come up with such big hype play great for a few months and then poof something happens and they are never the same again. I mean for example, Eric Hinske ring a bell? I know not nearly the same potential but Hinske had a hell of a rookie season, got signed long term and then stunk up the joint. I know its not fair to compare Lawrie to Hinske as Lawrie def. has more tools all around but he was the last jay that came to mind being raw with potential locked up and then fizzling. Colby Rasmus, another huge potential guy&#8230;what is St. Louis locked him up due to potential to a 8-9 year deal&#8230;.needless to say he wouldnt be a jay and i think they would regret that contract, at this moment anyways who knows later on.</p>
<p>All im saying is let&#8217;s let Lawrie have a full year to see what he can do and how he adjusts now that pitchers have a small book on him. If he is doing great by August then lets think extension until then i dont see the jays willing to talk long term contract without proof he can be that franchise player and not a flash in the pan.</p>
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