Comments on: Should the Blue Jays Even Consider Prying Yonder Alonso From the Reds? http://jaysjournal.com/2011/11/25/should-the-blue-jays-even-consider-prying-yonder-alonso-from-the-reds/ A Toronto Blue Jays Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:16:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Jared_Macdonald http://jaysjournal.com/2011/11/25/should-the-blue-jays-even-consider-prying-yonder-alonso-from-the-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-950758 Jared_Macdonald Sat, 26 Nov 2011 22:44:42 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=10187#comment-950758 @gnor I mainly left out mentioning McDade because he's not as close to the Majors as Cooper, but you're absolutely right about him possibly being in the mix next season and beyond. I agree as well that the Jays don't have that many "unfillable" holes heading into next season. As for 2B trade candidates, Gordon Beckham of the White Sox is a popular buy low, Major League option that would be intriguing. From a prospect standpoint, though, just type in Henry Rodriguez (Reds) into Baseball Reference and take a look! @gnor I mainly left out mentioning McDade because he’s not as close to the Majors as Cooper, but you’re absolutely right about him possibly being in the mix next season and beyond. I agree as well that the Jays don’t have that many “unfillable” holes heading into next season.

As for 2B trade candidates, Gordon Beckham of the White Sox is a popular buy low, Major League option that would be intriguing. From a prospect standpoint, though, just type in Henry Rodriguez (Reds) into Baseball Reference and take a look!

]]> By: Jared_Macdonald http://jaysjournal.com/2011/11/25/should-the-blue-jays-even-consider-prying-yonder-alonso-from-the-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-950757 Jared_Macdonald Sat, 26 Nov 2011 22:42:00 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=10187#comment-950757 @flatjacket1 Thanks for the great comment flatjacket1. A lot of people dismiss Cooper's stats in Vegas just because it's the PCL but, like you mentioned, average is really the main point where he benefited from it. Strikeout and walk rates are a different story. The high CF wall in Vegas certainly factored into his numbers, great point. Cooper hits to all fields as well, with a lot balls hit hard to left and right CF, right in the gaps (at least when I saw him NH a few times, he's probably changed for the better a lot since then). Hearing your thoughts about Cooper being better than Alonso is refreshing! Cooper's probably one of the most intriguing prospects in the Jays' system (especially after this season) considering he's never been highly regarded at all by lots of people and is far from the bust that he has been made out to be in the past. @flatjacket1 Thanks for the great comment flatjacket1. A lot of people dismiss Cooper’s stats in Vegas just because it’s the PCL but, like you mentioned, average is really the main point where he benefited from it. Strikeout and walk rates are a different story.

The high CF wall in Vegas certainly factored into his numbers, great point. Cooper hits to all fields as well, with a lot balls hit hard to left and right CF, right in the gaps (at least when I saw him NH a few times, he’s probably changed for the better a lot since then).

Hearing your thoughts about Cooper being better than Alonso is refreshing! Cooper’s probably one of the most intriguing prospects in the Jays’ system (especially after this season) considering he’s never been highly regarded at all by lots of people and is far from the bust that he has been made out to be in the past.

]]> By: Jared_Macdonald http://jaysjournal.com/2011/11/25/should-the-blue-jays-even-consider-prying-yonder-alonso-from-the-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-5204 Jared_Macdonald Sat, 26 Nov 2011 21:44:42 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=10187#comment-5204 @gnor I mainly left out mentioning McDade because he's not as close to the Majors as Cooper, but you're absolutely right about him possibly being in the mix next season and beyond. I agree as well that the Jays don't have that many "unfillable" holes heading into next season. As for 2B trade candidates, Gordon Beckham of the White Sox is a popular buy low, Major League option that would be intriguing. From a prospect standpoint, though, just type in Henry Rodriguez (Reds) into Baseball Reference and take a look! @gnor I mainly left out mentioning McDade because he’s not as close to the Majors as Cooper, but you’re absolutely right about him possibly being in the mix next season and beyond. I agree as well that the Jays don’t have that many “unfillable” holes heading into next season.

As for 2B trade candidates, Gordon Beckham of the White Sox is a popular buy low, Major League option that would be intriguing. From a prospect standpoint, though, just type in Henry Rodriguez (Reds) into Baseball Reference and take a look!

]]> By: Jared_Macdonald http://jaysjournal.com/2011/11/25/should-the-blue-jays-even-consider-prying-yonder-alonso-from-the-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-5203 Jared_Macdonald Sat, 26 Nov 2011 21:42:00 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=10187#comment-5203 @flatjacket1 Thanks for the great comment flatjacket1. A lot of people dismiss Cooper's stats in Vegas just because it's the PCL but, like you mentioned, average is really the main point where he benefited from it. Strikeout and walk rates are a different story. The high CF wall in Vegas certainly factored into his numbers, great point. Cooper hits to all fields as well, with a lot balls hit hard to left and right CF, right in the gaps (at least when I saw him NH a few times, he's probably changed for the better a lot since then). Hearing your thoughts about Cooper being better than Alonso is refreshing! Cooper's probably one of the most intriguing prospects in the Jays' system (especially after this season) considering he's never been highly regarded at all by lots of people and is far from the bust that he has been made out to be in the past. @flatjacket1 Thanks for the great comment flatjacket1. A lot of people dismiss Cooper’s stats in Vegas just because it’s the PCL but, like you mentioned, average is really the main point where he benefited from it. Strikeout and walk rates are a different story.

The high CF wall in Vegas certainly factored into his numbers, great point. Cooper hits to all fields as well, with a lot balls hit hard to left and right CF, right in the gaps (at least when I saw him NH a few times, he’s probably changed for the better a lot since then).

Hearing your thoughts about Cooper being better than Alonso is refreshing! Cooper’s probably one of the most intriguing prospects in the Jays’ system (especially after this season) considering he’s never been highly regarded at all by lots of people and is far from the bust that he has been made out to be in the past.

]]> By: gnor http://jaysjournal.com/2011/11/25/should-the-blue-jays-even-consider-prying-yonder-alonso-from-the-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-950752 gnor Sat, 26 Nov 2011 14:24:59 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=10187#comment-950752 Okay, who would be a good trade candidate to play second base for The Blue Jays? If he is to fall in line with AA's last few trades, he has to be a toolsy, high ceiling player, with a perceived attitude problem, who is under-performing/undervalued by his present team. What would it take to move him? Okay, who would be a good trade candidate to play second base for The Blue Jays? If he is to fall in line with AA’s last few trades, he has to be a toolsy, high ceiling player, with a perceived attitude problem, who is under-performing/undervalued by his present team.

What would it take to move him?

]]> By: gnor http://jaysjournal.com/2011/11/25/should-the-blue-jays-even-consider-prying-yonder-alonso-from-the-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-5198 gnor Sat, 26 Nov 2011 13:24:59 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=10187#comment-5198 Okay, who would be a good trade candidate to play second base for The Blue Jays? If he is to fall in line with AA's last few trades, he has to be a toolsy, high ceiling player, with a perceived attitude problem, who is under-performing/undervalued by his present team. What would it take to move him? Okay, who would be a good trade candidate to play second base for The Blue Jays? If he is to fall in line with AA’s last few trades, he has to be a toolsy, high ceiling player, with a perceived attitude problem, who is under-performing/undervalued by his present team.

What would it take to move him?

]]> By: gnor http://jaysjournal.com/2011/11/25/should-the-blue-jays-even-consider-prying-yonder-alonso-from-the-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-950751 gnor Sat, 26 Nov 2011 11:16:11 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=10187#comment-950751 You also didn't mention Mike McDade in AA, who is a switch hitter, and a better defender than anybody you have mentioned. He's a couple of years away, but The Blue Jays have plenty of depth at first base. I would rather see AA use some depth to acquire a young Orlando Hudson type to play second base, a position where they are thin in the minors. Aside from a closer, a second baseman, and possibly a backup catcher, The Blue Jays don't have too many holes to fill this year. I am a real fan of stand pat this year, let everybody get comfortable with their roles, and just see what they can do. If you stir the pot too often, you can spoil the stew. You also didn’t mention Mike McDade in AA, who is a switch hitter, and a better defender than anybody you have mentioned. He’s a couple of years away, but The Blue Jays have plenty of depth at first base. I would rather see AA use some depth to acquire a young Orlando Hudson type to play second base, a position where they are thin in the minors.

Aside from a closer, a second baseman, and possibly a backup catcher, The Blue Jays don’t have too many holes to fill this year. I am a real fan of stand pat this year, let everybody get comfortable with their roles, and just see what they can do. If you stir the pot too often, you can spoil the stew.

]]> By: gnor http://jaysjournal.com/2011/11/25/should-the-blue-jays-even-consider-prying-yonder-alonso-from-the-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-5197 gnor Sat, 26 Nov 2011 10:16:11 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=10187#comment-5197 You also didn't mention Mike McDade in AA, who is a switch hitter, and a better defender than anybody you have mentioned. He's a couple of years away, but The Blue Jays have plenty of depth at first base. I would rather see AA use some depth to acquire a young Orlando Hudson type to play second base, a position where they are thin in the minors. Aside from a closer, a second baseman, and possibly a backup catcher, The Blue Jays don't have too many holes to fill this year. I am a real fan of stand pat this year, let everybody get comfortable with their roles, and just see what they can do. If you stir the pot too often, you can spoil the stew. You also didn’t mention Mike McDade in AA, who is a switch hitter, and a better defender than anybody you have mentioned. He’s a couple of years away, but The Blue Jays have plenty of depth at first base. I would rather see AA use some depth to acquire a young Orlando Hudson type to play second base, a position where they are thin in the minors.

Aside from a closer, a second baseman, and possibly a backup catcher, The Blue Jays don’t have too many holes to fill this year. I am a real fan of stand pat this year, let everybody get comfortable with their roles, and just see what they can do. If you stir the pot too often, you can spoil the stew.

]]> By: Mylegacy http://jaysjournal.com/2011/11/25/should-the-blue-jays-even-consider-prying-yonder-alonso-from-the-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-950746 Mylegacy Sat, 26 Nov 2011 02:43:45 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=10187#comment-950746 I too think Yonder is half a basket of fruit short of being a MLB first base slugger. With Lind, EE and Coop all ready and accounted for I say Alonzo's just not enough of a difference maker to warrant trading anything of value for. I too think Yonder is half a basket of fruit short of being a MLB first base slugger. With Lind, EE and Coop all ready and accounted for I say Alonzo’s just not enough of a difference maker to warrant trading anything of value for.

]]> By: Mylegacy http://jaysjournal.com/2011/11/25/should-the-blue-jays-even-consider-prying-yonder-alonso-from-the-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-5192 Mylegacy Sat, 26 Nov 2011 01:43:45 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=10187#comment-5192 I too think Yonder is half a basket of fruit short of being a MLB first base slugger. With Lind, EE and Coop all ready and accounted for I say Alonzo's just not enough of a difference maker to warrant trading anything of value for. I too think Yonder is half a basket of fruit short of being a MLB first base slugger. With Lind, EE and Coop all ready and accounted for I say Alonzo’s just not enough of a difference maker to warrant trading anything of value for.

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