Comments on: Figuring out Frank Francisco http://jaysjournal.com/2011/09/28/figuring-out-frank-francisco/ A Toronto Blue Jays Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:16:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: atomic_frog http://jaysjournal.com/2011/09/28/figuring-out-frank-francisco/comment-page-1/#comment-4914 atomic_frog Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:21:31 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=9135#comment-4914 No chance he will be back, he will net the Jays a very valuable sandwich pick when he sign somewhere else. That pick is what AA is after. Frank can easily score a multi-yr deal in the open market, there is no chance he will accept arb. AA will sign another FA reliever, or use the young pitchers in the organization in the bullpen No chance he will be back, he will net the Jays a very valuable sandwich pick when he sign somewhere else. That pick is what AA is after. Frank can easily score a multi-yr deal in the open market, there is no chance he will accept arb.

AA will sign another FA reliever, or use the young pitchers in the organization in the bullpen

]]> By: atomic_frog http://jaysjournal.com/2011/09/28/figuring-out-frank-francisco/comment-page-1/#comment-950543 atomic_frog Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:21:31 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=9135#comment-950543 No chance he will be back, he will net the Jays a very valuable sandwich pick when he sign somewhere else. That pick is what AA is after. Frank can easily score a multi-yr deal in the open market, there is no chance he will accept arb. AA will sign another FA reliever, or use the young pitchers in the organization in the bullpen No chance he will be back, he will net the Jays a very valuable sandwich pick when he sign somewhere else. That pick is what AA is after. Frank can easily score a multi-yr deal in the open market, there is no chance he will accept arb.

AA will sign another FA reliever, or use the young pitchers in the organization in the bullpen

]]> By: juanguzman http://jaysjournal.com/2011/09/28/figuring-out-frank-francisco/comment-page-1/#comment-4913 juanguzman Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:20:43 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=9135#comment-4913 with papelbon's loss to help eliminate boston, do you think that just maybe boston will be less eager to re-sign him? just a thought. he would look awfully good in a jays uniform! with papelbon’s loss to help eliminate boston, do you think that just maybe boston will be less eager to re-sign him? just a thought. he would look awfully good in a jays uniform!

]]> By: juanguzman http://jaysjournal.com/2011/09/28/figuring-out-frank-francisco/comment-page-1/#comment-950542 juanguzman Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:20:43 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=9135#comment-950542 with papelbon's loss to help eliminate boston, do you think that just maybe boston will be less eager to re-sign him? just a thought. he would look awfully good in a jays uniform! with papelbon’s loss to help eliminate boston, do you think that just maybe boston will be less eager to re-sign him? just a thought. he would look awfully good in a jays uniform!

]]> By: Jared_Macdonald http://jaysjournal.com/2011/09/28/figuring-out-frank-francisco/comment-page-1/#comment-4912 Jared_Macdonald Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:47:19 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=9135#comment-4912 @talesen Personally talesen, I think being healthy is what turned it around for him. Often overlooked is the fact that Francisco actually did have a decent first half, but a rough month of May and two outings before the All-Star break in July skewed his numbers. He only gave up one earned run in the entire month of June and struck out 9 in 8.1 innings that month, too. So, as much as people, including myself, cite Francisco's strong second half, I think the Jays' homestand against the Indians at the very end of May actually marked the turning point of his season instead. @talesen Personally talesen, I think being healthy is what turned it around for him.

Often overlooked is the fact that Francisco actually did have a decent first half, but a rough month of May and two outings before the All-Star break in July skewed his numbers. He only gave up one earned run in the entire month of June and struck out 9 in 8.1 innings that month, too.

So, as much as people, including myself, cite Francisco’s strong second half, I think the Jays’ homestand against the Indians at the very end of May actually marked the turning point of his season instead.

]]> By: Jared_Macdonald http://jaysjournal.com/2011/09/28/figuring-out-frank-francisco/comment-page-1/#comment-950541 Jared_Macdonald Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:47:19 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=9135#comment-950541 @talesen Personally talesen, I think being healthy is what turned it around for him. Often overlooked is the fact that Francisco actually did have a decent first half, but a rough month of May and two outings before the All-Star break in July skewed his numbers. He only gave up one earned run in the entire month of June and struck out 9 in 8.1 innings that month, too. So, as much as people, including myself, cite Francisco's strong second half, I think the Jays' homestand against the Indians at the very end of May actually marked the turning point of his season instead. @talesen Personally talesen, I think being healthy is what turned it around for him.

Often overlooked is the fact that Francisco actually did have a decent first half, but a rough month of May and two outings before the All-Star break in July skewed his numbers. He only gave up one earned run in the entire month of June and struck out 9 in 8.1 innings that month, too.

So, as much as people, including myself, cite Francisco’s strong second half, I think the Jays’ homestand against the Indians at the very end of May actually marked the turning point of his season instead.

]]> By: Jared_Macdonald http://jaysjournal.com/2011/09/28/figuring-out-frank-francisco/comment-page-1/#comment-4911 Jared_Macdonald Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:36:42 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=9135#comment-4911 The difference between Francisco and Gregg is unbelievable pitching-wise. Even just physically, Francisco has that intimidating demeanor on the mound. Many people forget that Francisco missed the final month of the 2010 season and the Rangers' entire playoff run due to a ribcage injury before being traded to the Jays over the offseason. Then, in addition to having his offseason start off poorly, he got injured again in the spring, affecting his preparation for the upcoming 2011 season. I think AA will target a one year contract in the neighborhood of $4.5 million with a club option for 2013, just like how he did with Rauch and Frasor. That way, if Francisco has an solid first half, the Jays can either keep him or move him more easily at the deadline in case they want to promote a closing option from within. The difference between Francisco and Gregg is unbelievable pitching-wise. Even just physically, Francisco has that intimidating demeanor on the mound.

Many people forget that Francisco missed the final month of the 2010 season and the Rangers’ entire playoff run due to a ribcage injury before being traded to the Jays over the offseason. Then, in addition to having his offseason start off poorly, he got injured again in the spring, affecting his preparation for the upcoming 2011 season.

I think AA will target a one year contract in the neighborhood of $4.5 million with a club option for 2013, just like how he did with Rauch and Frasor. That way, if Francisco has an solid first half, the Jays can either keep him or move him more easily at the deadline in case they want to promote a closing option from within.

]]> By: Jared_Macdonald http://jaysjournal.com/2011/09/28/figuring-out-frank-francisco/comment-page-1/#comment-950540 Jared_Macdonald Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:36:42 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=9135#comment-950540 The difference between Francisco and Gregg is unbelievable pitching-wise. Even just physically, Francisco has that intimidating demeanor on the mound. Many people forget that Francisco missed the final month of the 2010 season and the Rangers' entire playoff run due to a ribcage injury before being traded to the Jays over the offseason. Then, in addition to having his offseason start off poorly, he got injured again in the spring, affecting his preparation for the upcoming 2011 season. I think AA will target a one year contract in the neighborhood of $4.5 million with a club option for 2013, just like how he did with Rauch and Frasor. That way, if Francisco has an solid first half, the Jays can either keep him or move him more easily at the deadline in case they want to promote a closing option from within. The difference between Francisco and Gregg is unbelievable pitching-wise. Even just physically, Francisco has that intimidating demeanor on the mound.

Many people forget that Francisco missed the final month of the 2010 season and the Rangers’ entire playoff run due to a ribcage injury before being traded to the Jays over the offseason. Then, in addition to having his offseason start off poorly, he got injured again in the spring, affecting his preparation for the upcoming 2011 season.

I think AA will target a one year contract in the neighborhood of $4.5 million with a club option for 2013, just like how he did with Rauch and Frasor. That way, if Francisco has an solid first half, the Jays can either keep him or move him more easily at the deadline in case they want to promote a closing option from within.

]]> By: dbenson1399 http://jaysjournal.com/2011/09/28/figuring-out-frank-francisco/comment-page-1/#comment-4910 dbenson1399 Thu, 29 Sep 2011 02:55:27 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=9135#comment-4910 I really liked Frank after the all-star break. Kevin Gregg gave me the hibbi-gibbis every time he came out in 2010, but once Frank got it going I had a much greater comfort level. Farrell commented recently that if he is back, that his off-season program would be different to get him better prepared for the start of the season. I think that shows the Jays are seriously considering bringing him back and I think a 2yr deal around 4 -5 mil would be very reasonable. I think there is a great closer somewhere in the Jays system, but no one is ready for April 2012. If someone does emerge, he could still be a great setup guy. I really liked Frank after the all-star break. Kevin Gregg gave me the hibbi-gibbis every time he came out in 2010, but once Frank got it going I had a much greater comfort level. Farrell commented recently that if he is back, that his off-season program would be different to get him better prepared for the start of the season. I think that shows the Jays are seriously considering bringing him back and I think a 2yr deal around 4 -5 mil would be very reasonable. I think there is a great closer somewhere in the Jays system, but no one is ready for April 2012. If someone does emerge, he could still be a great setup guy.

]]> By: dbenson1399 http://jaysjournal.com/2011/09/28/figuring-out-frank-francisco/comment-page-1/#comment-950539 dbenson1399 Thu, 29 Sep 2011 02:55:27 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=9135#comment-950539 I really liked Frank after the all-star break. Kevin Gregg gave me the hibbi-gibbis every time he came out in 2010, but once Frank got it going I had a much greater comfort level. Farrell commented recently that if he is back, that his off-season program would be different to get him better prepared for the start of the season. I think that shows the Jays are seriously considering bringing him back and I think a 2yr deal around 4 -5 mil would be very reasonable. I think there is a great closer somewhere in the Jays system, but no one is ready for April 2012. If someone does emerge, he could still be a great setup guy. I really liked Frank after the all-star break. Kevin Gregg gave me the hibbi-gibbis every time he came out in 2010, but once Frank got it going I had a much greater comfort level. Farrell commented recently that if he is back, that his off-season program would be different to get him better prepared for the start of the season. I think that shows the Jays are seriously considering bringing him back and I think a 2yr deal around 4 -5 mil would be very reasonable. I think there is a great closer somewhere in the Jays system, but no one is ready for April 2012. If someone does emerge, he could still be a great setup guy.

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