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		<title>By: Mikefriesen10</title>
		<link>http://jaysjournal.com/2011/07/18/should-the-jays-consider-trading-jose-bautista/comment-page-1/#comment-950304</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikefriesen10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a huge risk, fan-base wise - even if you got an astronomical return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a huge risk, fan-base wise &#8211; even if you got an astronomical return.</p>
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		<title>By: chewbacca</title>
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		<dc:creator>chewbacca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EE at 3rd? Um, no. Why the extended time at 3B for Lawrie, if all we&#039;re doing is plunking him in LF? If both Hill and EE are still here next year as starters, we are not contending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EE at 3rd? Um, no. Why the extended time at 3B for Lawrie, if all we&#8217;re doing is plunking him in LF? If both Hill and EE are still here next year as starters, we are not contending.</p>
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		<title>By: chewbacca</title>
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		<dc:creator>chewbacca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rationale: Jays get a ready-now starter, + replacement for Hill, + replacement for Bautista, a lights-out all-star reliever, and money to get our prospects signed from this years&#039; draft, plus a REALLY low salary committment to go after Pujols or Fielder as FAs (maybe BOTH!). I have no worries about JPA (yet), and Drabek will put it together next year. Morrow and Romero are fine, we need one more starter with them to compete (four deep). Lawrie comes in next year at 3B, Lind at first, Thames to DH, Snider OF with Trout (?) and Davis, Escobar at SS - I think that would be enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rationale: Jays get a ready-now starter, + replacement for Hill, + replacement for Bautista, a lights-out all-star reliever, and money to get our prospects signed from this years&#8217; draft, plus a REALLY low salary committment to go after Pujols or Fielder as FAs (maybe BOTH!). I have no worries about JPA (yet), and Drabek will put it together next year. Morrow and Romero are fine, we need one more starter with them to compete (four deep). Lawrie comes in next year at 3B, Lind at first, Thames to DH, Snider OF with Trout (?) and Davis, Escobar at SS &#8211; I think that would be enough.</p>
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		<title>By: chewbacca</title>
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		<dc:creator>chewbacca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Jays got a top of the rotation starter and an above-average 2B and some other goodies, then yes, I would consider.  How about a package of Dan Haren, Jean Segura (2B), and Mike Trout (OF) from LAA? And Jordan Walden, too. And 5 million cash, to help us sign our prospects. Yeah, that sounds about right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Jays got a top of the rotation starter and an above-average 2B and some other goodies, then yes, I would consider.  How about a package of Dan Haren, Jean Segura (2B), and Mike Trout (OF) from LAA? And Jordan Walden, too. And 5 million cash, to help us sign our prospects. Yeah, that sounds about right.</p>
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		<title>By: Mylegacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mylegacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Would you consider?&quot; - Yes, be a fool not to.

 

Is there any possible player(s) I think might be worth him, and his cheap contract? Maybe - how about King Feliz. That would still leave us - Escobar SS (R), Thames RF (L), Lawrie LF (R), Lind 1st (L), EE 3rd (R), Snider CF (L), d&#039;Arnaud C (R), Cooper (DH bats L) and Hill 2nd (R).

 

The King, Morrow, Romero, and two of Drabek, Alvarez and Hutchison. By mid to late 2012.

 

The King or JoeyBats - seriously, close, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Would you consider?&#8221; &#8211; Yes, be a fool not to.</p>
<p>Is there any possible player(s) I think might be worth him, and his cheap contract? Maybe &#8211; how about King Feliz. That would still leave us &#8211; Escobar SS (R), Thames RF (L), Lawrie LF (R), Lind 1st (L), EE 3rd (R), Snider CF (L), d&#8217;Arnaud C (R), Cooper (DH bats L) and Hill 2nd (R).</p>
<p>The King, Morrow, Romero, and two of Drabek, Alvarez and Hutchison. By mid to late 2012.</p>
<p>The King or JoeyBats &#8211; seriously, close, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: BenchedMark</title>
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		<dc:creator>BenchedMark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question is &quot;would you consider&quot; trading Bautista, and answer has to be yes.  

The unfortunate part is there is no way of knowing how far away the Jays are to making a serious run deap into the playoffs.  Morrow, Romero, Snider show signs of greatness, only to dissapear.  Escobar, Bautista, and Lind are the only players that consistantly play worthy of a contender.

The rest of the current starters (Litch, Cecil, CV, Reyes, Richmond, Stewart, Mills) are not good enough to start on a contending team in the AL east.  In my opinion, JPA is not the answer behind the plate, both offensively and defensively.  He has too many flaws in his swing and a low OBP.  We do not have a CF whom is above average at anything other than steeling 3b.  Hill is lost offensively, and the bullpen is shaky at best.

Now, we do have a plethera of high ceiling tallent on the way to fill the gap, but most of these players will not be able to step up and play above average right from game one.  It could take 2 to 4 years for these players, including guys like Morrow, Drebek and Romero, to really take that step forward and play like all stars. 

Yes, Bautista is the franchise player. Yes, Bautista is the best player in baseball. He has more value to the Jays than just his play.  He bridges the communication gap for latin american players, and he can go a long way in helping the team sign international players.  But the timeling of his &quot;Prime&quot; and the Jays &quot;contention&quot; are potentially far apart.

For these reasons, I hope that AA thinks long and hard about this, and if he is blown away by an offer, he seriously considers it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is &#8220;would you consider&#8221; trading Bautista, and answer has to be yes.  </p>
<p>The unfortunate part is there is no way of knowing how far away the Jays are to making a serious run deap into the playoffs.  Morrow, Romero, Snider show signs of greatness, only to dissapear.  Escobar, Bautista, and Lind are the only players that consistantly play worthy of a contender.</p>
<p>The rest of the current starters (Litch, Cecil, CV, Reyes, Richmond, Stewart, Mills) are not good enough to start on a contending team in the AL east.  In my opinion, JPA is not the answer behind the plate, both offensively and defensively.  He has too many flaws in his swing and a low OBP.  We do not have a CF whom is above average at anything other than steeling 3b.  Hill is lost offensively, and the bullpen is shaky at best.</p>
<p>Now, we do have a plethera of high ceiling tallent on the way to fill the gap, but most of these players will not be able to step up and play above average right from game one.  It could take 2 to 4 years for these players, including guys like Morrow, Drebek and Romero, to really take that step forward and play like all stars. </p>
<p>Yes, Bautista is the franchise player. Yes, Bautista is the best player in baseball. He has more value to the Jays than just his play.  He bridges the communication gap for latin american players, and he can go a long way in helping the team sign international players.  But the timeling of his &#8220;Prime&#8221; and the Jays &#8220;contention&#8221; are potentially far apart.</p>
<p>For these reasons, I hope that AA thinks long and hard about this, and if he is blown away by an offer, he seriously considers it.</p>
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		<title>By: He's Done it Again!</title>
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		<dc:creator>He's Done it Again!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are all in Jose coma. I will admit, watching the Jays with him in the lineup has made every game interesting, he is special to watch! Saying that, the Jays have missed their ship to compete, losing a guy like Roy Halladay, sending Marcum, the Jays character ace, out of town for a youngster in Brett Lawrie is not a move to compete today or tomorrow. Jays winning now is completely out of the question. I love what Jose has done for the franchise but his value is at an ultimate high right now. His affordability/productivity, through his ability to play the infield and out field, his offensive explosiveness, character personality..... ultimately he is the complete package. Drawback? 30 years old. Jays have a system of ultra talented guys that are 5 even 10 years younger then him and are significant years away from their prime. I would imagine AA is not shopping Jose but has put it out there that he will listen to offers.

 

What would a Jose return bring the Blue Jays? Very tough call and I seriously cannot fathom AA completing a trade before the deadline. But if Jose finishes the 2011 season with another 50 dinger campaign with an explosive .330 avg.... the return would be exceptional! 

 

Possibilities?

 

Bautista to Braves for Heyward and Beachy or Minor or Venters (future closer)? 

 

Bautista to Phillies for Hamels and Brown? 

 

Bautista to Mets for David Wright +?

 

Bautista to Reds for Joey Votto (I think this is a stretch because Joey has less control ability then Jose)

 

I think the sweepstakes for such a move would be incredible and moving this commodity would be much easier then the Halladay move AA was stuck with a year ago. In a perfect world Jose would be 5 years younger and the Jays would be sprinting into post season for the next 10 years. Moving Bautista now would put 3 or 4 pieces of the puzzle together. 

 

Thoughts?

 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are all in Jose coma. I will admit, watching the Jays with him in the lineup has made every game interesting, he is special to watch! Saying that, the Jays have missed their ship to compete, losing a guy like Roy Halladay, sending Marcum, the Jays character ace, out of town for a youngster in Brett Lawrie is not a move to compete today or tomorrow. Jays winning now is completely out of the question. I love what Jose has done for the franchise but his value is at an ultimate high right now. His affordability/productivity, through his ability to play the infield and out field, his offensive explosiveness, character personality&#8230;.. ultimately he is the complete package. Drawback? 30 years old. Jays have a system of ultra talented guys that are 5 even 10 years younger then him and are significant years away from their prime. I would imagine AA is not shopping Jose but has put it out there that he will listen to offers.</p>
<p>What would a Jose return bring the Blue Jays? Very tough call and I seriously cannot fathom AA completing a trade before the deadline. But if Jose finishes the 2011 season with another 50 dinger campaign with an explosive .330 avg&#8230;. the return would be exceptional! </p>
<p>Possibilities?</p>
<p>Bautista to Braves for Heyward and Beachy or Minor or Venters (future closer)? </p>
<p>Bautista to Phillies for Hamels and Brown? </p>
<p>Bautista to Mets for David Wright +?</p>
<p>Bautista to Reds for Joey Votto (I think this is a stretch because Joey has less control ability then Jose)</p>
<p>I think the sweepstakes for such a move would be incredible and moving this commodity would be much easier then the Halladay move AA was stuck with a year ago. In a perfect world Jose would be 5 years younger and the Jays would be sprinting into post season for the next 10 years. Moving Bautista now would put 3 or 4 pieces of the puzzle together. </p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: rohan.chugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>rohan.chugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t about who can or can&#039;t help us compete. Jose is to TO as Ichiro was to Seattle, as Pujols is to St. Louis.

 

Take a hike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t about who can or can&#8217;t help us compete. Jose is to TO as Ichiro was to Seattle, as Pujols is to St. Louis.</p>
<p>Take a hike.</p>
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		<title>By: JerryEttinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>JerryEttinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the 30% that voted to trade jose dont have a fucking clue</description>
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		<title>By: ryanpicks</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryanpicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you people are retarded... Bautista is the best player in baseball who is signed at a more then affordable contract. there would NEVER be any benefit of trading him</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you people are retarded&#8230; Bautista is the best player in baseball who is signed at a more then affordable contract. there would NEVER be any benefit of trading him</p>
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