Comments on: Out of the Top 50 Jays Prospects (for now): Yan Gomes and Sam Dyson http://jaysjournal.com/2011/03/11/out-of-the-top-50-jays-prospects-for-now-yan-gomes-and-sam-dyson/ A Toronto Blue Jays Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:16:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Roger http://jaysjournal.com/2011/03/11/out-of-the-top-50-jays-prospects-for-now-yan-gomes-and-sam-dyson/comment-page-1/#comment-3507 Roger Wed, 23 Mar 2011 03:37:42 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=6465#comment-3507 It had something to do with the new coach they brought in. A number of the Tennessee baseball players quit or transfered. His only option must have been division II after that. It had something to do with the new coach they brought in. A number of the Tennessee baseball players quit or transfered. His only option must have been division II after that.

]]> By: John Havok http://jaysjournal.com/2011/03/11/out-of-the-top-50-jays-prospects-for-now-yan-gomes-and-sam-dyson/comment-page-1/#comment-3423 John Havok Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:22:58 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=6465#comment-3423 Some players need to be pushed, others don't. Hard to argue with how the Rays do things right now, then they bring someone up, they are pretty much there to stay without a huge gap in production. Some players need to be pushed, others don’t. Hard to argue with how the Rays do things right now, then they bring someone up, they are pretty much there to stay without a huge gap in production.

]]> By: Mat Germain http://jaysjournal.com/2011/03/11/out-of-the-top-50-jays-prospects-for-now-yan-gomes-and-sam-dyson/comment-page-1/#comment-3420 Mat Germain Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:17:19 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=6465#comment-3420 On Diaz, he sure is making it, along with another pitcher. Agree on the handling competition bit, but that was partially J.P. Ricciardi's fault in my opinion. He was great at picking out the cream, just not the crop. We'll see how this year's placements pan out, but it would be nice to see the Jays push their players a little more, such as Detroit has with many of their prospects. On Diaz, he sure is making it, along with another pitcher.
Agree on the handling competition bit, but that was partially J.P. Ricciardi’s fault in my opinion. He was great at picking out the cream, just not the crop.

We’ll see how this year’s placements pan out, but it would be nice to see the Jays push their players a little more, such as Detroit has with many of their prospects.

]]> By: Eric http://jaysjournal.com/2011/03/11/out-of-the-top-50-jays-prospects-for-now-yan-gomes-and-sam-dyson/comment-page-1/#comment-3392 Eric Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:16:09 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=6465#comment-3392 Rushing prospects really doesn't do anything but make fans happy. Everyone should run the farm system like the Rays; never rush anyone, ever. Rushing prospects really doesn’t do anything but make fans happy. Everyone should run the farm system like the Rays; never rush anyone, ever.

]]> By: Rob Bott http://jaysjournal.com/2011/03/11/out-of-the-top-50-jays-prospects-for-now-yan-gomes-and-sam-dyson/comment-page-1/#comment-3391 Rob Bott Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:27:39 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=6465#comment-3391 I hope Misaul Diaz is making your list. He has had great K and K/BB rates the last two years. He is 21 so he should be in Lansing this year. I also want to see other Latin pitchers who have excelled like Milciades Santana, Alesone Escalante (who are both 22), Victor German and Alex Ramirez (who are both 21)in the bullpen at Lansing. Am I wrong that the Jays seem to have been too slow in finding out if their prospects can handle competition. Should you not have an age range of 19-22 for Low A (Lansing), 20-23 for High A (Dunedin), 21-24 for Double A (New Hampshire) and over 24 for AAA (Las Vegas). Should you not have guys that already faced major competition in NCAA and internationally like McGuire, Wojo and Sam Dyson at Dunedin, not Lansing (I like Alvarez, Egan Smith and Ryan Tepera to round out that nice looking starting staff). Then Lansing could be Hutchison, Webb, Nolin, Diaz, Purdy and Griffin Murphy (who is now 20, so was an older high school pitcher). Lansing's relievers were good last year and should graduate to Dunedin (Turnbull, Wright, Molina, Loup, Antolin and add Marze and Permison who both have college experience. Jenkins should be at AA by now and let him struggle and learn there. Lance (son of Leon) Durham should be in Dunedin; he is 23 with Big East college experience (where he broke Youklis' single season hit record). Ahrens, Justin Jackson and Kenny Wilson should be in Dunedin. Gose should stay in Dunedin and just improve (he is only 20). McDade, d'Arnaud, Gomes, Tolisano, Sobolewski, Schimpf and Sierra should be in New Hamshire along with org guys Nolan, Van Kirk, McElroy and Glenn. The young arms are really young so short season for them is good (Vancouver, Bluefield or Dunedin GCL): Sanchez, Syndergaard, Nicolino, Taylor, Estrada, Miles Jaye, Zak Addams and Latin pitchers like Vargas, Carmona and Pina. Great work on the series, Jared and Mat I hope Misaul Diaz is making your list. He has had great K and K/BB rates the last two years. He is 21 so he should be in Lansing this year. I also want to see other Latin pitchers who have excelled like Milciades Santana, Alesone Escalante (who are both 22), Victor German and Alex Ramirez (who are both 21)in the bullpen at Lansing.

Am I wrong that the Jays seem to have been too slow in finding out if their prospects can handle competition. Should you not have an age range of 19-22 for Low A (Lansing), 20-23 for High A (Dunedin), 21-24 for Double A (New Hampshire) and over 24 for AAA (Las Vegas). Should you not have guys that already faced major competition in NCAA and internationally like McGuire, Wojo and Sam Dyson at Dunedin, not Lansing (I like Alvarez, Egan Smith and Ryan Tepera to round out that nice looking starting staff). Then Lansing could be Hutchison, Webb, Nolin, Diaz, Purdy and Griffin Murphy (who is now 20, so was an older high school pitcher). Lansing’s relievers were good last year and should graduate to Dunedin (Turnbull, Wright, Molina, Loup, Antolin and add Marze and Permison who both have college experience.

Jenkins should be at AA by now and let him struggle and learn there.

Lance (son of Leon) Durham should be in Dunedin; he is 23 with Big East college experience (where he broke Youklis’ single season hit record). Ahrens, Justin Jackson and Kenny Wilson should be in Dunedin. Gose should stay in Dunedin and just improve (he is only 20). McDade, d’Arnaud, Gomes, Tolisano, Sobolewski, Schimpf and Sierra should be in New Hamshire along with org guys Nolan, Van Kirk, McElroy and Glenn.

The young arms are really young so short season for them is good (Vancouver, Bluefield or Dunedin GCL): Sanchez, Syndergaard, Nicolino, Taylor, Estrada, Miles Jaye, Zak Addams and Latin pitchers like Vargas, Carmona and Pina.

Great work on the series, Jared and Mat

]]> By: Daniel http://jaysjournal.com/2011/03/11/out-of-the-top-50-jays-prospects-for-now-yan-gomes-and-sam-dyson/comment-page-1/#comment-3389 Daniel Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:07:20 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=6465#comment-3389 Barry university is in miami, which is hometown. Could've been the reason why he switched. I also read a quote from him when he was drafted where he said that transferring to Barry really helped him because he felt more comfortable. Maybe he was homesick. Barry university is in miami, which is hometown. Could’ve been the reason why he switched. I also read a quote from him when he was drafted where he said that transferring to Barry really helped him because he felt more comfortable. Maybe he was homesick.

]]> By: Alex http://jaysjournal.com/2011/03/11/out-of-the-top-50-jays-prospects-for-now-yan-gomes-and-sam-dyson/comment-page-1/#comment-3386 Alex Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:33:52 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=6465#comment-3386 Honour code violation? Honour code violation?

]]> By: Mat Germain http://jaysjournal.com/2011/03/11/out-of-the-top-50-jays-prospects-for-now-yan-gomes-and-sam-dyson/comment-page-1/#comment-3383 Mat Germain Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:23:46 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=6465#comment-3383 Maybe there was a girl..... Maybe there was a girl…..

]]> By: Jared Macdonald http://jaysjournal.com/2011/03/11/out-of-the-top-50-jays-prospects-for-now-yan-gomes-and-sam-dyson/comment-page-1/#comment-3382 Jared Macdonald Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:52:19 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=6465#comment-3382 Bankertuck, I thought the same thing when I read it when researching him. Barry is a Division II school, and because of that it doesn't even draw a comparison to any Division I schools like UT. I'm not sure exactly why Gomes transferred to Barry after having success at the D-I level at Tennessee, either. Bankertuck, I thought the same thing when I read it when researching him. Barry is a Division II school, and because of that it doesn’t even draw a comparison to any Division I schools like UT.

I’m not sure exactly why Gomes transferred to Barry after having success at the D-I level at Tennessee, either.

]]> By: bankertuck http://jaysjournal.com/2011/03/11/out-of-the-top-50-jays-prospects-for-now-yan-gomes-and-sam-dyson/comment-page-1/#comment-3381 bankertuck Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:17:56 +0000 http://jaysjournal.com/?p=6465#comment-3381 Why would Gomes transfer from University of Tennessee to Barry? Is Barry some place that has slipped under my radar ? Why would Gomes transfer from University of Tennessee to Barry? Is Barry some place that has slipped under my radar ?

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