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		<title>By: Profiling Zach Stewart &#124; Future Sox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Profiling Zach Stewart &#124; Future Sox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 20:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zach Stewart Makes First Start, Christopher Hawkins Assigned to Dunedin &#171; Jays Journal &#124; A Toronto Blue Jays Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach Stewart Makes First Start, Christopher Hawkins Assigned to Dunedin &#171; Jays Journal &#124; A Toronto Blue Jays Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can read all about Stewart here, as he ranked 3rd on our pre-2011 Top 50 Jays Prospect [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Schrandt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schrandt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope to see you starting with the Jays this year Zach!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope to see you starting with the Jays this year Zach!</p>
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		<title>By: Gribble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gribble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t think the Jays would be that concerned about shutting down Stewart if it came to that.  They shut down Morrow who is older and more experienced.  They did so with Cecil (I think) the year before too.  If Stewart is ready in a couple of months to start contributing to the big league rotation, I think he&#039;ll get a chance.

170 innings is almost a full season for a young, back of the rotation starter anyway, unless he turns out to be really efficient in pitches per inning.  Stewart would have to have a very special season to surpass that in the majors.  I don&#039;t dispute the possibility of that, but usually the rookie year for a pitcher is fairly up and down with a few short exits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t think the Jays would be that concerned about shutting down Stewart if it came to that.  They shut down Morrow who is older and more experienced.  They did so with Cecil (I think) the year before too.  If Stewart is ready in a couple of months to start contributing to the big league rotation, I think he&#8217;ll get a chance.</p>
<p>170 innings is almost a full season for a young, back of the rotation starter anyway, unless he turns out to be really efficient in pitches per inning.  Stewart would have to have a very special season to surpass that in the majors.  I don&#8217;t dispute the possibility of that, but usually the rookie year for a pitcher is fairly up and down with a few short exits.</p>
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		<title>By: TammyBeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>TammyBeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the overall thrust of your remarks.
But to clarify, While Stewart only had 79 IP when they made the shift, he would end up 2009 with a total of 105. that +26 IP was about all that either team would have wanted to do anyway, and if he&#039;d stayed in the rotation it would certainly have been considerably higher. So the shift was not in light of innings already logged, but the total that would have been anticipated had he continued in the rotation.


 And I also would suggest that the happy noise about him maybe making the rotation that we have heard this spring is misguided. He still hasn&#039;t gotten his inning total up to where it needs to be. if he broke camp in the rotation they would still have to shut him down early like they did Morrow last year. 

They stretched him by 31 more IP in 2010, and would likely be looking at dding another ~30 in 2011. That takes you to the 165-170 range. Which as we all know is not really considered a full season&#039;s work at the major league level. given that there are easily six quality options in front of him, and three more stop-gap types - I&#039;m reasonably certain Stewart won&#039;t start a game in the majors before September, and if then only a couple of token starts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the overall thrust of your remarks.<br />
But to clarify, While Stewart only had 79 IP when they made the shift, he would end up 2009 with a total of 105. that +26 IP was about all that either team would have wanted to do anyway, and if he&#8217;d stayed in the rotation it would certainly have been considerably higher. So the shift was not in light of innings already logged, but the total that would have been anticipated had he continued in the rotation.</p>
<p> And I also would suggest that the happy noise about him maybe making the rotation that we have heard this spring is misguided. He still hasn&#8217;t gotten his inning total up to where it needs to be. if he broke camp in the rotation they would still have to shut him down early like they did Morrow last year. </p>
<p>They stretched him by 31 more IP in 2010, and would likely be looking at dding another ~30 in 2011. That takes you to the 165-170 range. Which as we all know is not really considered a full season&#8217;s work at the major league level. given that there are easily six quality options in front of him, and three more stop-gap types &#8211; I&#8217;m reasonably certain Stewart won&#8217;t start a game in the majors before September, and if then only a couple of token starts.</p>
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		<title>By: John Havok</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Havok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 16:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something that alot of people don&#039;t take into consideration about minor league pitching is that these guys are constantly working on the pitches that they don&#039;t have at an average or above average level in order to improve them. They are basically not worrying about overall results, they are worried about developing pitches and improving command, location, etc.

It&#039;s well known in the Jays system that you are expected to throw X number of changeups/cutters/whatever pitches you need to work on every time you are out there, regardless of results.

 When you see a guy like Stewart who has a higher walk rate than youd expect from a guy with a plus fastball and a plus plus slider, it&#039;s because he&#039;s working on that change and throwing it when he would normally throw the slider or the fastball that he can control and command much better. 

Always have to take pitching stats with a slight grain of salt in the minors(just like spring training for roster pitchers).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something that alot of people don&#8217;t take into consideration about minor league pitching is that these guys are constantly working on the pitches that they don&#8217;t have at an average or above average level in order to improve them. They are basically not worrying about overall results, they are worried about developing pitches and improving command, location, etc.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s well known in the Jays system that you are expected to throw X number of changeups/cutters/whatever pitches you need to work on every time you are out there, regardless of results.</p>
<p> When you see a guy like Stewart who has a higher walk rate than youd expect from a guy with a plus fastball and a plus plus slider, it&#8217;s because he&#8217;s working on that change and throwing it when he would normally throw the slider or the fastball that he can control and command much better. </p>
<p>Always have to take pitching stats with a slight grain of salt in the minors(just like spring training for roster pitchers).</p>
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		<title>By: Mat Germain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mat Germain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could be, but he had only thrown 79 innings, so it doesn&#039;t seem to be the case. He threw 47 innings in College in 2008 and then added 33 in the minors, so there was no increase in innings to worry about in 2009.

I do agree that a space would have to open up for Stewart, but I remember sitting down to write a piece about how great the rotation looked behind Doc Halladay once because we thought both Dustin McGowan and Shaun Marcum were going to take a step forward. Things change quickly in spring, and you don&#039;t need to look any further than St-Louis to see that.

I do think he&#039;ll continue to start in AA or AAA (most likely AAA). Even if they wanted to put him in the Jays pen, that&#039;s also loaded with competition, so it doesn&#039;t fix anything. Doing so allows them to bring him up in whatever role they need filled during the 2011 season and to take it from there. If it&#039;s long relief with spot starts, so be it. If it&#039;s starting, that&#039;s great to. I just don&#039;t believe that they&#039;ll box themselves into making a decision now by putting him in the pen from the get-go. That would limit their options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could be, but he had only thrown 79 innings, so it doesn&#8217;t seem to be the case. He threw 47 innings in College in 2008 and then added 33 in the minors, so there was no increase in innings to worry about in 2009.</p>
<p>I do agree that a space would have to open up for Stewart, but I remember sitting down to write a piece about how great the rotation looked behind Doc Halladay once because we thought both Dustin McGowan and Shaun Marcum were going to take a step forward. Things change quickly in spring, and you don&#8217;t need to look any further than St-Louis to see that.</p>
<p>I do think he&#8217;ll continue to start in AA or AAA (most likely AAA). Even if they wanted to put him in the Jays pen, that&#8217;s also loaded with competition, so it doesn&#8217;t fix anything. Doing so allows them to bring him up in whatever role they need filled during the 2011 season and to take it from there. If it&#8217;s long relief with spot starts, so be it. If it&#8217;s starting, that&#8217;s great to. I just don&#8217;t believe that they&#8217;ll box themselves into making a decision now by putting him in the pen from the get-go. That would limit their options.</p>
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		<title>By: TammyBeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>TammyBeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 04:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Gribble that a pitcher with two really good pitches can do ok breaking into the majors. He&#039;d need a third to max out his potential, but there&#039;ve been pitchers that had above average careers without it.

I do wonder if he won&#039;t end up closing not because he CAN&#039;T be a quality starter but because we have so many we can afford the luxury. If Drabek and Zep both turned out to be above-average 9or better) starters then who do you kick aside for Stewart?

By the way, I&#039;m pretty sure that the Reds shifted him back to the &#039;pen in 2009 as a means of controlling his IP year-over-year, not because of any doubts about his ability to start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Gribble that a pitcher with two really good pitches can do ok breaking into the majors. He&#8217;d need a third to max out his potential, but there&#8217;ve been pitchers that had above average careers without it.</p>
<p>I do wonder if he won&#8217;t end up closing not because he CAN&#8217;T be a quality starter but because we have so many we can afford the luxury. If Drabek and Zep both turned out to be above-average 9or better) starters then who do you kick aside for Stewart?</p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;m pretty sure that the Reds shifted him back to the &#8216;pen in 2009 as a means of controlling his IP year-over-year, not because of any doubts about his ability to start.</p>
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		<title>By: Gribble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gribble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 03:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy Halladay became a front line starter throwing mainly a sinker and curveball.  It was only in the following years that he developed his cutter and the very occasional changeup to give hitters a different look.

To me it&#039;s not the quantity of the pitches but the quality and the command and the stamina.  I think Stewart has enough of those things to become a pretty good starter.  Could he be a dominant closer?  Maybe.  But why would you take a guy who could give you 180+ innings of quality work and turn him into a short reliever?

Short relievers are important, but good starters are harder to find and are generally more expensive for a reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy Halladay became a front line starter throwing mainly a sinker and curveball.  It was only in the following years that he developed his cutter and the very occasional changeup to give hitters a different look.</p>
<p>To me it&#8217;s not the quantity of the pitches but the quality and the command and the stamina.  I think Stewart has enough of those things to become a pretty good starter.  Could he be a dominant closer?  Maybe.  But why would you take a guy who could give you 180+ innings of quality work and turn him into a short reliever?</p>
<p>Short relievers are important, but good starters are harder to find and are generally more expensive for a reason.</p>
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		<title>By: mylegacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>mylegacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 02:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with KLaw - he saw Zach pitch late in 2010 and said all three pitches were working - he looked great - and he saw no reason he couldn&#039;t be a frontline starter.

Stewart - will be a BIG part of our future. Bank on it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with KLaw &#8211; he saw Zach pitch late in 2010 and said all three pitches were working &#8211; he looked great &#8211; and he saw no reason he couldn&#8217;t be a frontline starter.</p>
<p>Stewart &#8211; will be a BIG part of our future. Bank on it!</p>
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